tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post4285655480680178022..comments2024-03-15T08:05:28.706+00:00Comments on The Sleeping Policeman: A Former Police Officer's Blog: Town Centre ViolenceLex Ferendahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11111622017331655936noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-11431353566498132622011-04-29T16:24:26.232+01:002011-04-29T16:24:26.232+01:00Yeah, well don't forget that some of us like t...Yeah, well don't forget that some of us like to get pissed on a weekend, and then quietly go home without causing trouble. In fact, that's the majority- you just don't see us because we aren't causing mayhem. So ease up on the blanket banning of everything eh? There's no law saying I can't get shit-faced, just so long as I behave myself.<br />Agreed, many people get too drunk and cause a problem. But they hardly cause as much problem for policing as bloody football matches do every weekend, and no-one is saying lets close them down/ban them if their supporters are rowdy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-13931025236320141822010-06-12T14:12:26.656+01:002010-06-12T14:12:26.656+01:00I disgree, Furor, much as I agree with your overal...I disgree, Furor, much as I agree with your overall sentiments; the picture is indeed "normal2 in the sense that it is a typical example of the disgraceful binge-drinking "culture" that exists in most British cities and towns these days, and the associated violence and other crime. Most town centres are now no-go areas on a Friday or Saturday for anyone over 35 who isn't looking for a fight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-50858013844603434172010-04-30T21:11:21.700+01:002010-04-30T21:11:21.700+01:00more
read this in USA.
Have Brits no shame
google...more <br />read this in USA.<br />Have Brits no shame<br />google cardif drink wjs<br />U.K. Drinking Problem Gets Political <br />or<br />http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704588404575123691166554882.html<br />dungbeetleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-63779019582122114072010-04-23T21:28:46.596+01:002010-04-23T21:28:46.596+01:00marinademchuck said...
Hello from Ukraine !
You...<i> marinademchuck said... <br /><br />Hello from Ukraine !<br /><br />You offer the sensible idea, as for me.<br /><br />I will say you that our people here like a Vodka, or 40, but in 27 years I do not ever see any of our girls laying in street wit legs invitingly open, as your foto, I was in a shock to look this.<br /><br />Anyway, sincerely to you.<br /><br />Marina.</i><br /><br />Marina. To be fair. It is not a "normal" picture. The girl/Woman, I am SURE, had no intention to be seen as she is in the photo.<br /><br />The drink, and the ability to control it, is the problem. NOT the morals of the person in question.<br /><br />The reaction of a normal person, would be to "cover her up" NOT take a photograph of her.<br /><br />It DOES, however, serve a purpose. As a "wake up call" to others that would go out, and get into such a state.<br /><br />I only hope that she, and others, can learn from it.<br /><br />For any one to see the photograph as in any way "errotic" ( <i> wit legs invitingly open</i> ) sais more about the viewer than it does about the victim.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-26200737769416836502010-04-23T20:21:59.156+01:002010-04-23T20:21:59.156+01:00Hello from Ukraine !
You offer the sensible idea,...Hello from Ukraine !<br /><br />You offer the sensible idea, as for me.<br /><br />I will say you that our people here like a Vodka, or 40, but in 27 years I do not ever see any of our girls laying in street wit legs invitingly open, as your foto, I was in a shock to look this.<br /><br />Anyway, sincerely to you.<br /><br />Marina.<br />UA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-61780828597331609652010-04-23T07:22:28.385+01:002010-04-23T07:22:28.385+01:00Enforce those three laws
But if the prisons are ...<i> Enforce those three laws </i><br /><br />But if the prisons are full of drunks, where do the Government put the 90 year old Grannies that can not afford to pay their T.V licence?Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-56174317720594189672010-04-23T01:17:16.367+01:002010-04-23T01:17:16.367+01:00There is an easy solution to public drunkenness w...There is an easy solution to public drunkenness where people have had so much to drink they put themselves or others at risk, actually enforcing the law as it stands.<br /><br />Section 141 of the Licensing Act 2003 make the "Sale of alcohol to a person who is drunk" a criminal offence, allowing for the arrest of the bar staff meaning the bar could be closed.<br /><br />Section 142 of the same makes "Obtaining alcohol for a person who is drunk" an offence allowing forthe arrest for anyone buying alcohol for a person who is drunk (which could be interpreted to include someone who is drunk buying a drink for themselves).<br /><br />Then there is Section 1 of the Licensing Act 1902 which allows for the "Apprehension of person found drunk and incapable in public place" which specifically includes "in any highway or other public place, whether a building or not, or on any licensed premises"<br /><br />Enforce those three laws and you will clear up the problem of public drunkenness and the associated violence in a jiffy .we might need some big jails to use as drunk tanks initially but one busy weekend night and you could meet your annual targets for detections.Mindstarrisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312511981528301718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-83181696074325334212010-04-18T11:09:06.566+01:002010-04-18T11:09:06.566+01:00I left in 1981, to joint the RMP, because the pape...I left in 1981, to joint the RMP, because the paper work in the civy police was at ridiculous levels....Hmmm.<br /><br />I suppose now, they would seem to be "the good old days".Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-84737604238551242332010-04-18T11:04:58.700+01:002010-04-18T11:04:58.700+01:00Furor, don't know when you left but the bigges...Furor, don't know when you left but the biggest changes were:<br />The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1986,<br />The Crown Prosecution Service (1986),<br />The Criminal Procedures and Investigations Act 1996,<br />Human Rights Act 1998,<br />Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000,<br />Police and Crime Act 2009.<br /><br />I could go on, there were more. All of these meant more bureaucracy, more accountability, hours of form filling before you can do anything and after you do anything. <br />All I see is risk aversion to enable targets to be met and to avoid scrutiny and potential litigation. Significantly more than the increase in police officer numbers over the last twenty years have been made impotent by the raft of legislation, accountability and bean counting that has been imposed on us. All this talk about reducing bureaucracy has come to nothing as no-one has the metal to call a halt to this nonsense.Lex Ferendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11111622017331655936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-54974254935563234142010-04-17T21:45:01.761+01:002010-04-17T21:45:01.761+01:00Lex Ferenda. I know. I was there, done it, got the...Lex Ferenda. I know. I was there, done it, got the T-shirt. Bruche PTC. S-Class 79.<br /><br />Later went to the R.M.P. Now doing M.P with the German navy.<br /><br />So what happened?Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-6204322673452611312010-04-17T17:40:47.395+01:002010-04-17T17:40:47.395+01:00Furor, I wish it was that easy. When I joined the ...Furor, I wish it was that easy. When I joined the police you arrested a drunk and took them back to the cells. You were out on the street 20 minutes later ready for the next one. On a Friday and Saturday night it was not uncommon for cells to have three or four prisoners in. The drunks were charged and went to Court on Monday morning and got hammered by the Magistrates. <br />Nowadays, if you arrest a drunk, you are off the street for two hours doing the paperwork leaving the streets bereft of coppers. Drunk prisoners can't be put more than one in each cell in case they kill each other and we get sued. In the morning they are released and given a fixed penalty notice for £80. No Court. <br />So I think tackling the problem in the manner suggested is the only way forward.Lex Ferendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11111622017331655936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-84267031279924204162010-04-17T07:40:15.587+01:002010-04-17T07:40:15.587+01:00XX I am generally against introducing more and mor...XX I am generally against introducing more and more legislation to control behaviour.XX<br /><br />You do not NEED more. Start feeling collars for D+D/D+I, (IF those offences still exist).<br /><br />Shove them 15 and 20 to a cell. LET them puke and pisss all over each other. It may teach them a lesson, as they have to walk home on Saturday/Sunday morning, covered in other peoples Ex drink. With a court case to go.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-15935656391977852292010-04-14T13:31:41.732+01:002010-04-14T13:31:41.732+01:00Something needs to be done now about this madness....Something needs to be done now about this madness. A few years ago I attended a very nice evening at the yacht club in Swansea. On the way back to our hotel we had to walk along 'bar' street. This is the street where seemingly every 4th or 5th premises was a bar. Old banks that had been converted to drinking holes. I have never seen so much drunken foolery in all my life. It was more than a little bit intimidating to walk through the large crowds of very drunk people gathered outside these premises. I had been warned by a local as to what it would be like but the reality was much worse than I had been lead to believe.Agent Zig Zaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02727546032713681964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-83452789944104599602010-04-12T08:37:13.843+01:002010-04-12T08:37:13.843+01:00New Zealand have an interesting idea. The numbers ...New Zealand have an interesting idea. The numbers might have changed since I was last there, but serving a drunk customer in a bar or restaurant attracts a $2500 fine for the server, and a $10000 fine for the owner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-56802900051394397302010-04-12T04:24:22.604+01:002010-04-12T04:24:22.604+01:00People sat in pubs having conversation rather than...<i>People sat in pubs having conversation rather than standing around drinking and listening to deafening music.</i><br /><br />A sane and sensible idea, which I for one would enjoy, but it'll never happen. <br /><br />The drinking barn operators know that people who can't hear themselves speak drink faster. Loud music, bright lights, and crowded standing room only have been industry practice in town centres for at least a century now (late-Victorian gin palaces were the prototype).<br /><br />All the money to be made from packing in the punters means that civilised drinkers, cabbies, and the poor bloody copper get the manky end of the stick every weekend.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588995136414705349.post-10633431563145119362010-04-11T21:41:09.500+01:002010-04-11T21:41:09.500+01:00I'd support your plan. I've often wondered...I'd support your plan. I've often wondered if the very act of standing up, being barged about by the crowd and having to shout your conversation to the person stood next to you over the loud music was responsible for increasing people's aggression, before alcohol is even factored in...Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01962931483973457516noreply@blogger.com